It's been fun discovering their is so much unconditional love in " the world"
And in " the world" it's nice to be able to question and be answered.
The Rebel
on another thread i commented " the most wonderful thing for me about having left the organisation is giving an education to my child, encouraging him to be dedicated and committed to the person he himself wants to be".
for me that is the best thing about being free from the organisations control.. what has been your best realisation having left the organisation?.
the rebel..
It's been fun discovering their is so much unconditional love in " the world"
And in " the world" it's nice to be able to question and be answered.
The Rebel
so i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
Kepler thank you for your informative post and link. Much appreciated.
The Rebel.
so i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
Terry I guess the point from your link is,that we have a lot of conspiracy bullshit.-:)
The Rebel.
so i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
Viviane, thanks for the reply.
Could you answer my question ( without making me feel 2ft tall)
( Q ) Do we have any evidence from verifiable sources the flag is still standings?
Now I have got to rush as I am pickniking with my boy and other half in the park....( if I were on a bible study my priorities may have been different)
The Rebel.
so i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
That's a great story freemindfade fade. Reminded me of the film SMOKE by Paul Auster. which finished with the the writer writiting his friends made up " Christmas story"
The writer played by ( I forget) said " Bullshit" but you tell a great story."I can't remember the lines off the top of my head,but that was an under appreciated film with Harvey Kietel, whose character told a beautiful story of " Bullshit"
The key word Auster used in the film script of SMOKE was also the key word in your post " Bullshit" and if you watch the film you will appreciate " Bullshit" is to be respected and it is also often quite valid.
Your post made a " Paul Auster" point, debating can be both educational and fun.
The Rebel.
so i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
Going back and reading my O.P I realise I may have missed the answer to a question i asked:-
When the astrotaughts left the moon, the flag they planted was standing.
( Q) Do we have any evidence from any verifiable sources the flag is still standing?
The Rebel.
so i was fooled by the witnesses.
what can i learn from that?
not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.
Good point Steve-38y.
Anyway maybe in 50 years moon travel will be the norm. That will put the debate to bed.
But whether we went to the moon or not, personally I would rather the money had been spent feeding and clothing the poor of the world, which would have been paid for many times over if we didn't waste so much money on exploring outer space, nuclear weapons and defence.
" Hello" WE were ONCE knocking on our neighbours door asking the "STUPID "question,
" Do you think maybe someday all nations will unite as one race, and the money is available to feed the poor."
The point I am trying to make is this- we all once knocked on strangers doors, thinking our stupid contrived questions clever. We even thought people stupid for believing in dinosaurs.
What does this have to do with OUR thread?
I think a great deal, as to how we should respect diffent viewpoints.
The Rebel.
on another thread i commented " the most wonderful thing for me about having left the organisation is giving an education to my child, encouraging him to be dedicated and committed to the person he himself wants to be".
for me that is the best thing about being free from the organisations control.. what has been your best realisation having left the organisation?.
the rebel..
Yes tiki @ neverajw I agree.
I received a birthday card from my boy "To my dad. To the person that always stands up for me........." That in its self was worth all the crap involved with leaving the organisation.
The Rebel.
on another thread i commented " the most wonderful thing for me about having left the organisation is giving an education to my child, encouraging him to be dedicated and committed to the person he himself wants to be".
for me that is the best thing about being free from the organisations control.. what has been your best realisation having left the organisation?.
the rebel..
On another thread I commented " The most wonderful thing for me about having left the organisation is giving an education to my child, encouraging him to be dedicated and committed to the person he himself wants to be"
For me that is the best thing about being free from the organisations control.
What has been your best realisation having left the organisation?
The Rebel.
hi guys, .
in discussions with a current jw, they told me that have big concerns with regards to the 607 bce date, but they are waiting on jehovah for refining.
any suggestions on questions to pose to them based on their feedback?.
Annon ( Q ) Any advice on questions to pose to them based on their feedback?
The Rebel.( A) They believe the Watchtower are the packagers and owners of truth, it's your job to pose questions to prove they are not. But don't give up hope if they don't reason, the organisation has done its job of indoctrination on them over many years. So stay friends and be pleased you saw through the indoctrination. Most importantly give them time to come around," chip away at them" is a term we used when I conducted bible studies. The same I am sure is true, when on the other side.
The Rebel.